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“I don’t believe the particular qualities which have made Michael O’Leary a success are the qualities that would make him the best Taoiseach in the country”

Sam Smyth
29th Sep, 2021

Michael Lillis glided effortlessly from the apex of the Irish public service to the boardroom of Ireland’s most exciting international company. After helping to negotiate the Anglo Irish Agreement, arguably the most important treaty this state has entered into since independence, he joined Guinness Peat Aviation, the company that persuaded the world to lease aircraft from Ireland. And all before he turned 40. In this podcast with Sam Smyth, he talks about all of that and more, including his conversation with Franco, Castro and Pope John Paul II.

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