“There’s a bit of cognitive dissonance between that and then just down the road, people chilling out in cafes and I got the feeling that the horrors of this war have not really sunk in”
Johnny O'Reilly talks to Dion Fanning from Kyiv about the city's return to a kind of normality which may reflect some optimism or may simply be a sign that you can get used to anything. Meanwhile, just outside the city, the people of the satellite town of Irpin come to terms with the full horror of war. He also talks about his time among the war correspondents in Ukraine