“My parents are in Kyiv and they don’t want to leave.”
The Ukrainian academic Volodymyr Ishchenko has dealt for much of his career with nationalism in Ukraine and beyond. He is part of this podcast this weekend, discussing the motivation of Vladimir Putin, why he feels Russian nationalism doesn't play a huge role in the career of a man who has been driven by cynical, kleptocratic politics and Ishchenko also talks about his own parents who remain in Kyiv. In the first part of the podcast, Johnny O'Reilly speaks to The Currency from Odessa about covering this story and what lies ahead.